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شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

آج ہم بات کرینگے کراچی اسٹاک ایکسچینج پر ہونیوالے حملے اور اس کے اٹھنے والے سوالات پر اور اس کے ساتھ جڑے دیگر معاملات پر  اور ماضی میں اس طرح کے واقعات جو رونما ہوئے ہیں اسی کے اس تسلسل کو دیکھتے ہیں کہ آج کس طرح اس کی مذمت کی جارہی ہے ہم دیکھتے ہیں کہ ماضی میں دیگر واقعات کی کس طرح مذمت نہیں کی گئی ہے۔بعض انہی کے اندر موجود مسلح گروپوں کی کبھی جو حمایت کرتے تھے وہ اب کہ رہے ہیں کہ بلوچ مسلح گروپس کسی ملک کی پراکسی کی جنگ یہاں لڑ رہے ہیں تو اس تمام صورتحال پر ہم بات کرینگے ہمارے ساتھ  موجود سینئر تجزیہ کار،کالم نویس  جنکی بلوچستان کی سیاست اور اتار چڑھاؤ پر گہری نظر ہے اور اس پر لکھتے بھی ہیں انور ساجدی صاحب

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

انور ساجدی صاحب سٹاک ایکسچینج حملے کو آپ کس طرح دیکھتے ہیں ۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

 ایسا ہے کہ کراچی اسٹاک ایکسچینج جو وہ اس ملک کا سب سے بڑا ایکسچینج ہے اور اسکی ملک کی اکانومی میں بہت اہمیت ہے جن لوگوں نے حملہ کیا اگرچہ انکی شناخت ظاہر کی گئی ہے۔وہ اصل صورتحال جسکی وجہ سے اںہوں نے یہ حملہ کیا وہ ابھی یعنی وہ مستند نہیں ہے۔لیکن اس کا مقصد یہ ظاہر ہوتا ہے کہ کراچی جو پاکستان کا اقتصادی شہر ہے کراچی اسٹاک ایکسچینج جو محور ہے تو اس کو ٹارگٹ جائے تاکہ ساری دنیا میں جو انکا یہ خبر انکی دہشت یا انکا میسج یعنی وہ پہنچ جائے اور اس  کا مقصد میرے خیال میں کوئی زیادہ سے زیادہ پبلسٹی حاصل کرنا ہے۔

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

اچھا ہم دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ آپ کہ رہے ہیں کہ پبلسٹی حاصل کرنا ہے یا عالمی میڈیا کی زینت بننا ہے دوسری جانب آپ دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ اسکی مذمت بھی انہی کسی زمانے میں علیحدگی پسندوں کی حمایت کرتے تھے یا اب بھی کرتے ہیں وہ اس عمل کی مذمت کررہے ہیں آپ اس مذمت کو کس طرح دیکھتے ہیں۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

ایسا ہے کہ واقعات کے دو پہلو ہوتے ہیں جن لوگوں نے حملہ کیا اب پتہ نہیں انکے مقاصد کیا تھے لیکن اس سے ظاہر ہوتا ہے کہ جن لوگوں نے مذمت کی اگر انہوں نے  کی ہے کیونکہ ابھی تک یہ کوئی تصدیق شدہ بات نہیں ہے سوشل میڈیا پر بیان جاری کرنا وہ بہت ہی آسان کام ہوگیا ہے۔اگر انہوں نے اسکی مذمت کی ہے اسکا مطلب ہے ان میں دھڑے بندی ہے اور وہ تقسیم ہیں یا گروپنگ ہے اور باقی جو ہے یہ جو مذاحمت کی سیاست ہے میں اسکا اتنا زیادہ ایکسپرٹ نہیں ہوں اور مجھے بہت زیادہ معلوم نہیں ہے کہ وہ کتنی تنظیمیں ہیں انکا دائرہ کار ہے کونسی تنظیم کس جگہ زیادہ موثر ہے اور باقی تنظیمیں کیا کررہی ہیں دیکھیں اس سے ظاہر ہوتا ہے کہ اگر انہوں نے مذمت کی ہے وہ جو تنظیمیں کام کررہی ہیں وہ جو ہے ان میں اختلاف ہے اور دوسری بات یہ ہے کہ انکا پھر مقصد ایک نہیں ہے اگر انکا مقصد ایک ہوتا تو انکا ایکشن ایک ہوتا انکا ایک ٹیگ ہوتا ان کا جو ہے ٹارگٹ ایک ہوتا اور مقاصد ایک ہوتے اس کا مطلب ہے کہ تنظیموں کے مختلف مقاصد ہیں۔۔۔۔ اگر ہیں تو ۔۔۔!

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

جس طرح آپ نے کہا کہ مذمت کرنیوالوں کے درمیان اور انکے مقاصد پر بھی آپ آرہے ہیں لیکن یہ کہا جارہا ہے کہ جو حلقے مذمت کررہے ہیں جو حلقے وہ کہ رہے ہیں کہ یہ عالمی قوانین کی خلاف ورزی ہے اس سے ہماری بدنامی ہوگی۔اس سے قبل آپ نے دیکھا کہ یہاں پر دیگر حملے ہوئے دکانوں پر بھی حملے ہوئے اور ایک خاتون پروفیسر کو بھی یہاں پر سریاب روڈ پر قتل کیا گیا تو کیا وہ عالمی قوانین اور جنگی قوانین کے مطابق تھے۔

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

بھائی جس طرح آپ بول رہے ہیں اس طرح کے حملے ہوئے ہیں اور جو لوگ آج مذمت کررہے ہیں اگر انہوں نے یہ کام انہوں نے یہ پہلے کیا ہے تو وہ جو ہے جنیوا کنونشن کے مطابق جو ہے وہ جو نہتے لوگ ہیں انکو جو ٹارگٹ کرنا عالمی قوانین کے مطابق نہیں ہے۔

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

نہیں وہ کہ رہے ہیں کہ یہ جو ماضی میں حملے ہوتے رہیں جب  ان سے سوال کیا تھا میں نے خود اپنے ایک پروگرام میں جلاوطن ایک بلوچ قوم پرست سے اپنے ٹی وی چینل کے توسط سے  سوال کیا تھا تو  ڈاکٹر طالب کے واقعہ پر انہوں نے کہا تھا کہ جی کہ یہ ری ایکشن ہے آج وہ کہ رہے ہیں وہ اس حملے کی مذمت کرتے ہیں اور اسے عالمی قوانین کی خلاف ورزی قرار دے رہے ہیں جبکہ اس دوران انکا موقف تھا کہ یہ جو ہے ری ایکشن ہے

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

اس میں ایک تضاد ہے میرا ذاتی خیال ہے کہ یہ عالمی قوانین ہیں دنیا میں جہاں کنفلیکٹ زون ہیں اور ایک تنازعہ یا جنگ جاری ہے۔وہاں جو نہتے لوگ ہیں انکو ٹارگٹ نہیں بنایا جا سکتا۔اگر جو آپ پر حملے میں ملوث ہیں یا ان کے خلاف ہیں اگر وہ ایکدوسرے کو مارتے ہیں تو وہ ایک الگ بات ہے۔جو ایسے نہتے لوگ ہیں اور پیس فل لوگ ہیں یا جن کا اس کنفلیکٹ سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے ان پر یہ حملہ کرنا مناسب نہیں ہے۔

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

اس سے قبل جو اہم دیکھ رہے کہ افغانستان کی بات آجاتی ہے ہندوستان کی بات آجاتی ہے وہ جو پہلے گروپس تھے جو اب ایران کی طرف ۔۔۔کہ رہے ہیں کہ یہ گروپس ایران کی یہ جو ہے پراکسی وار یہاں جو الزام یہاں لگا رہے ہیں کیا وہ ایران اور افغانستان کی پراسکی وار یہاں لڑ رہے ہیں 

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

یی جو  مجھے اس کا علم نہیں ہے کہ ایسا ہے لیکن دیکھیں یہ کنفلیکٹ زون تو ہے  اور اس بے شمار اس کے فیکٹرز انوالو ہوجاتے ہیں۔مجھے نہیں پتہ کہ افغانستان یا ایران کی پراکسی وار یہ لڑرہے ہیں کیونکہ شواہد ابھی تک موجود نہیں ہیں اگر آئندہ ہوں تو الگ بات ہے

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

انور ساجدی صاحب  اب یہ بھی کہا جارہا ہے جو گروپ ابھی جو حالیہ جس نے حملہ کیا ہے ایک گروپ کہ رہا ہے کہ ایک ملک کا پراکسی جنگ یہاں لڑ رہے ہیں ہم اس پراکسی کا حصہ بننے جا رہے ہیں۔ انکا اشارہ ایران کی طرف تھا تو آپ کیا دیکھ رہے ہیں۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

ماضی میں تو جو رہا ہے ایران کے لوگ بھی مخالف رہے ہیں انکا موقف رہا ہے کہ ایران نے بھی بزور طاقت جو مغربی بلوچستان ہے  اس پر قبضہ کیا ہے۔اور ایران نے بہت زیادہ ہیومن رائٹس کی خلاف ورزی کی ہے۔یہ جو ملک ایران ہے جس کا نام فارس تھا اس وقت انہوں نے مغربی بلوچستان میں ریاست تھی آزاد بلوچستان کی اور جو اسکا آخری حکمران تھا میر دوست محمد بارکزائی تو اس کو انہوں نے ہٹا کے جبراََ بلوچستان پر قبضہ کیا اور اس کے بعد جو مذاحمت ہوئی تو ہزاروں لوگ اس نے مارے تو وہ تو اس کے خلاف رہے ہیں کہ وہ ایک قبضہ گیر ملک ہے اب میرے پاس ایسی معلومات نہیں ہیں یہ جو مذاحمت کار ہیں یا جو بھی ہیں وہ ایران کا پراکسی بننے جارہے ہیں اب سوال یہ ہے کہ ایران کی خود پوزیشن ایک قبضہ گیر کی ہے تو اسکا پراکسی وہ کس طرح بنیں گے۔

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

یہ بات تو اٹھائی جارہی ہے کہ اگر  مطلب آپ نے جس طرح نقشہ کھینچا ہے کہ ایران کے حوالے سے تو کہا جارہا یے اب ایران کے یہاں پر کچھ اختلافات چل رہے ہیں اس وجہ سے وہ مسلح گروپوں کو اپنے لئے استعمال کررہے ہیں۔شاید یہ دونوں ایکدوسرے کو مفادات استعمال کرنے کےلئے یہ سب کچھ کررہے ہیں۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

دیکھیں ایران اور اس ملک کے اختلافات ایسے نہیں رہے ہیں جیسا کہ ہندوستان کے ساتھ ہیں اور بظاہر یہ دونوں ملک ایکدوسرے کو دوست بولتے ہیں اور انکا ایکدوسرے سے رابطہ ہے انکے مقامی جو افسران ہیں انکی باقاعدہ میٹنگز ہوتی ہیں سرحد کے دونوں طرف اور دونوں یہی بولتے ہیں کہ دونوں ہم یہی کہتے ہیں ہم آمدورفت کو سخت کرینگے اور ہم سیکیورٹی کو سخت کرینگے اور ہم ایکدوسرے کے خلاف کسی گروہ کی حمایت نہیں کرینگے اور کسی ایکٹ کی حمایت نہیں کرینگے اور میں نہیں سمجھتا ہوں کہ ایران اور اسکے پڑوسیوں کے اتنے زیادہ اختلافات ہیں کہ ایران جو ہے کوئی پراکسی بنا کا استعمال کررہا ہے 

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ہم جن گروپس کی بات کررہے ہیں ان درمیان کو اختلافات ہیں  اب کھل کر ایکدوسرے پر الزامات لگا رہے ہیں آپ کے خیالات میں یہ الزامات لیڈنگ اور فنڈنگ پوزیشن کےلئے کرہے ہیں یا واقعی ہی نظریاتی اختلافات ہیں 

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس

دیکھیں جی  ابھی تو یہ بات ثابت نہیں ہے کہ ان لوگوں کو کہاں سے فنڈنگ ہورہی ہے اگر فنڈنگ پر جھگڑا ہے تو پہلے تو یہ ثابت ہونا چاہیے کہ انکو فنڈگ ہورہی ہے تو اسکی تقسیم پر ہے اچھا باقی جو انکا اختلاف ہے ہوسکتا ہے کوئی حکمت عملی کی وجہ سے ہو یا جو لیڈر شپ کی وجہ سے ہو یا شخصی ٹکراؤ کی وجہ سے ہو یہ ہوسکتا ہے 

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 جو فنڈگ کا آپ نے ذکر کیا یہاں تو بار بار ذکر کیا جاتا رہا کہ فنڈنگ ہورہی ہے تو یہ اپنی جگہ موجود ہے لیکن اب یہ کھل کر ان کی طرف سے باتیں آرہی ہیں کہ یہ جی وہ پیسے دے رہے ہیں گرپوں کو استعمال کرنے کےلیے اب کہا جاتا ہے کہ مکران گروپ الگ ہے اس بیلٹ  جو فنڈگ کا آپ نے ذکر کیا حقیقت میں تو یہ بات یہاں تو بار بار کہی جاتی رہی ہے کہ فنڈنگ ہورہی ہے تو یہ اپنی جگہ موجود ہے لیکن اب یہ کھل کر ان کی طرف سے باتیں آرہی ہیں کہ یہ جی وہ پیسے دے رہے ہیں ان کو استعمال کرنے کےلئے ایک گروپ کو  اب کہا جاتا ہے کہ مکران گروپ الگ ہے اس بیلٹ پر ہے وہ الگ گروپ ہے جس طرح میں نے ذکر کیا مکران گروپ کو اس طرح کہا جاتا ہے کہ جی وہ ایران کے پراکسی کا حصہ ہے باقی اس گروپ کی جانب وہ الزامات لگاتے ہیں کہ ان دونوں کے درمیان الزام تراشی کا سلسلہ چل رہا ہے تو سوال یہ اٹھتا ہے کہ کہ رہے ہیں جی وہ فنڈ لے رہے تھے اور کارروائیوں کو پہلے جائز قرار دے رہے تھے جب ہم کارروائیاں کررہے ہیں اسے ناجائز قرار دے رہے ہیں تو اس ٹکراؤ کس طرح دیکھتے ہیں۔۔؟

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میں نے پہلے کہا یہ گروہ جن کا آپ نام لے رہے ہیں میں بہت گہرائی سےا نکو نہیں جانتا ہوں جیسا کہ آپ کہ رہے ہیں جو سوالات صیح سوال ہیں ان سے پوچھے جا سکتے ہیں جو براہ راست جنکا اختلاف ہے یا ٹکراؤ ہے اگر آپ ان دو فریقوں سے رابطہ کرکے یہ سوالات پوچھیں تو زیادہ بیتر جواب دے سکیں گے میری نسبت۔۔ 

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ہم تو صرف تجزیہ کررہے ہیں سوالات رکھ رہے ہیں جو انکی طرف سے ایکدوسرے پر سوالات اٹھائے جارہے ہیں۔ 

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آپ کے سوالات امیجینیشن پر مشتمل ہیں کیونکہ اس کے ثبوت تو آپکے پاس کوئی نہیں ہیں یہ سنی سنائی باتیں ہیں اس کو آپ سوال بنا رہے ہیں ۔۔۔

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 آپ دیکھیں جو اب دو دن پہلے جو جلاوطن ہیں نواب خیر بخش مری کے فرزند حربیار مری انہوں نے خود کہا مطلب اسکا اشارہ اسی طرف تھا جو حالیہ حملہ ہوا ہے اسٹاک ایکسچینج پر اس پر انہوں نے کہا کہ یہ ایران کی پراکسی کا حصہ ہے ایران اپنی پراکسی کےلئے انہیں استعمال کررہا ہے ۔اب آپ اس پر کیا کہیں گے۔۔؟

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جس کا بھی نام لیا ہے مجھے نہیں پتہ اس نے کس کا نام لیا ہے 

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جنہوں نے حملہ کیا استاک ایکسچینج پر ۔۔۔!!

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انہوں نے جھنڈا تھوڑی لگایا اپنی شناخت ظاہر کی کہ ہم فلاں ہیں 

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مجید برگیڈ کے نام سے پہلے براس کے نام سے ہے بی ایل ایف کے نام سے ہے جانا جاتا ہے جو کالعدم تنظیمیں ہیں تو یہ زمہ داری قبول کرتے ہیں جی انکی طرف انکا اشارہ ہے

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وہ تو اسکو پتہ ہوگا نہ (حربیار مری) مجھے پتہ نہیں اتنا اسکا باقی مجید برگیڈ کو میں نہیں جانتا ہوں باقی انکی جو ایک دو تنظیمیں ہیں جیسے دوسرے لوگ سنتے ہیں ہم بھی سنتے ہیں باقی آپ نے ذکر کیا مکران گروپ ایسا گروپ تو ہم نے سنا نہیں ہے 

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بی ایل ایف کا کہ رہے ہیں ۔۔۔!

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اس کا بھی بیس مکران تو نہیں ہے !! وہ تو جھالاوان بیسڈ ہے۔تو وہ کیسے کہتا ہے مکران گروپ کوئی اور گروپ بن گیا ہے۔

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مکران گروپ مطلب مکران سے زیادہ لوگ تعلق رکھتے ہیں اس وجہ سے۔۔؟ اس گروپ میں۔۔حمایت یافتہ۔۔!

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اتنا تو ہم نہیں جانتے کہ اس میں مکران کے لوگ زیادہ ہیں جھالاوان کے زیادہ ہیں ساراوان کے زیادہ ہیں یہ تو کوئی نہیں کہ سکتا نہ ۔۔

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اب آتے اس بات پر کہ جو حالیہ یہ پراکسی جو چل رہی ہے۔اس کو آپ آگے کس طرح دیکھ رہے ہیں۔۔؟

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پہلے تو یہ بتائیں آپ کس بنیاد پر لفظ پراکسی استعمال کررہے ہیں 

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ملطب وہ کہ رہے کہ یہ پراکسی وار ہے انہی کے لفظ کو یہان کہ رہا ہوں

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 وہ کہ رہے آپ کہ رہے ہیں پراکسی چل رہی ہے آپ کے پاس کیا ثبوت ہیں اس کے۔۔؟

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میں یہ کہ رہا ہوں کہ پہلے یہ کہا کہ افغانستان اب ایران ۔مطلب افغانستان بھارت اور ایران کا ذکر آتا ہے

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ایسا ہے کہ ابھی جو یہ معاملہ ہے جو آپ بول رہے ہیں ہمیں تو پتہ نہیں ہے لیکن چونکہ یہ ایک کنفلیکٹ زون ہے اس میں جو خلیج ہے اس میں دنیا کی تما پاورز جمع ہورہی ہیں تو انے درمیان مستقبل میں کنفلیکٹ شو ہونا یقینی بات ہے کیونکہ اسی سمندر میں امریکہ کے اڈے ہیں سابقہ جو سپر پاور ہے انگلینڈ اسکا بھی ایک ہوائی اڈا ہے اور ابھی چین بھی یہاں پہنچ رہا ہے تو وہ بھی موجود ہوگا۔اور پھر ایران اور امریکہ کے تنازعات ہیں ایران اور عرب کے جو رایولز ہیں انکے بھی تضدات ہیں تو ہسکتا ہے جب اس وقت یہ کنفلیکٹ بڑھے تو براہ راست کوئی ٹکراؤ ہو پراکیسز بھی ہوں اور پھر اس طرح کے مسائل بھی ہوں یہ جو لڑائی ہیؤے ان میں پراکیسز ہوتی ہیں ہر ملک اپنے بناتا ہے تاکہ دوسرے کو نقصان پہنچائے۔لیکن وہ مستقبل میں ہوگا ابھی کوئی ایسی پراکسی نہیں ہے جو بڑے پیمانے پر ہو

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مطلب آپ کہتے ہیں ہے لیکن انتے بڑے پیمانے پر نہیں ہے۔آپ سمجھتے ہیں کہ نہیں ہے۔

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اگر ہیں تو ۔۔میرے خیال میں ہیں ہی نہیں ۔۔اگر ہیں تو بہت چھوٹے پیمانے پر ہونگی

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 جو خود کل تک یہ کہتے تھے کہ جن حملوں کے پیچھے فلانے  کے بیٹے جلاوطن ہیں  انکو فنڈنگ کررہے ہیں حریبار ہے ،براغمداغ ہے جاوید بھی ہے ۔۔؟

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حربیار جو ہے یہ جو میدان جنگ یا مثال کے طور پر تنازعہ ہے وہ یہاں پر موجود نہیں ہے۔اور میرے خیال میں جو موجود نہ ہوں وہ گراونڈ ریلیٹیز سے زیا دہ تر واقف نہیں ہیں کیونکہ وہ بہت دور ہوتے ہیں اور انکو اطلاعات براہ راست ملتی ہیں سنی سنائی باتیں ہوتی ہیں چونکہ وہ خود گراونڈ میں نہیں ہیں لہذا وہ زیادہ آگاہ نہیں ہوتے حالات سے۔۔!!!

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اچھا آپ اب کیا سمجھتے ہیں کہ مستقبل میں ۔۔۔مطلب آپ یہ دیکھ رہے ہیں یہ جو بلوچستان میں جو یہ 2006 کے بعد کی صورتحال بنی تو ایک بار پارلیمانی کمیٹی بنی اکبر خان کے دور میں،مطلب اکسرسائز ہوتے رہے ہیں انکے ساتھ مذاکرات کرکے۔۔۔۔۔واپس ۔۔۔۔!!!

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 ایسا ہے کہ اکبر خان کے ساتھ مذاکرات ہوئے تھے اور پھر جنرل مشرف نے مذاکرات کا سلسلہ ختم کردیا تھا اور مشرف نے فیصلہ کیا کہ مذاکرات کی بجائے طاقت کا استعمال ہوگا مشرف یہ سمجھتے تھے کہ دوسرا جو فریق ہے وہ طاقتور نہیں ہے اور وہ لڑائی کی پوزیشن میں نہیں ہے اور ٹکر کی پوزیشن میں نہیں ہے تو انہوں نے یہ پالیسی بنائی تھی کہ یہاں ہم طاقت کے استعمال سے مسائل حل کرینگے۔لہذا اس کے بعد سے ابھی تک کوئی مذاکرات نہیں ہوئے اور نہ کوئی آثار ہیں کہ مذاکرات میں کوئی فریق دلچسپی لے گا

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جب ڈاکٹر مالک کا دور تھا حاصل بزنجو نے کو گزشتہ روز میڈیا کے پروگرام میں کہا تھا جی ۔۔۔میں خود بھی ڈاکٹر مالک کا انٹرویو کیا تھا وہ کہتے ہیں جب وہ وزیر اعلی تھا تو وہ کسی حد تک مزاکرات میں کامیابی ہوئی۔۔۔۔ براہمداغ بگٹی کے ساتھ۔۔۔ لیکن بعد میں انکی مدت ختم ہوگئی۔۔۔

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وہ ایسا تھا کہ اس کا ایک حصہ صیح ہے اور ایک حصہ درست نہیں ہے۔اچھا یہ بات درست ہے کہ وہ یہاں سے لندن گئے تھے۔اور وہاں سے وہ سویٹزرلینڈ گئے تھے اور وہاں انہوں نے مذاکرات کئے لیکن انکا یہ دعوی ابھی تک ثابت نہیں ہو سکا کہ وہ براہمداغ بگٹی واپس آنے کےلئے تیار تھے جو انہوں نے کیلم کیا ہے جو حاصل خان نے کلیم کیا لیکن وہ جو بھی تھا مذاکرات کا سلسلہ ٹوٹ گیا جو آج تک بحال نہیں ہوسکا اور کسی فریق نے اس طرف اشارہ نہیں دیا وہ دلچسپی لیتے ہوں۔انہوں نے یہ نہیں بتایا تھا کہ شرائط کونسی تھیں۔اگر وہ بتاتے کہ شرائط کیسے تھے معمولی تھے یا غیر معمولی تھے۔

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اچھا ہم جس طرح بات کررہے ہیں تھے کہ  علیحدگی پسندوں کی طرف سے اختلافات موجود ہیں لیکن یہاں پر دیکھیں افغان مہاجرین کی واپسی ۔۔۔؟۔۔گوادر کو ڈیموگرافک تبدیل کرنا۔۔؟

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یہ انتظامی مطالبہ ہے  کیونکہ انکو خطرہ ہے کہ انکی موجودگی سے ڈیموگرافک تبدیلی آجائے گی۔یہ بھی صیح مطالبہ ہے باقی ایسے کوئی ایسے شیخ مجیب الرحمان کے کوئی چھ نکات نہیں ہیں جیسے اس طرف کے چھ نکات تھے

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آپ سمجھتے ہیں کہ یہ چھ نکات اگر پورے کئے بھی جائیں تو کوئی بڑا فرق  پڑیگا۔مطلب بلوچستان کا مسئلہ اپنی جگہ رہے گا  بقول آپ کے کہ جس طرح میں نے کہا کہ دو قوم پرست جماعتیں آپ نے کہا وہ اسکی تعریف پر پورا نہیں اترتے  

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کوئی فرق نہیں پڑیگا بلوچستان کا اصل مسئلہ موجود ہے،سیاسی جماعت کی تعمیر پت پورا نہیں اترتے  اور قوم پرستی پر پورا نہیں اترتی 

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مطلب اگر آپ مذید واضح کردیں کہ اس طرح ہونا چاہیے تاکہ ناظرین کی دلچسپی بڑھے۔۔؟

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اس کا اصل مسئلہ بلوچ قوم کی نیشنل شناخت کا مسئلہ ہے جس کے ختم ہونیکا خطرہ ہے یا ڈیموگرافک تبدیل ہونیکا کا خطرہ ہے وہ بلوچستان کا اصل مسئلہ ہے اسکا مسئلہ یہ نہیں ہے کہ چند کروڑ مل جائیں کچھ ارب مل جائیں چار نوکریاں مل جائیں اور گوادر پورٹ کے منافع  میں سے دس فیصد حصہ مل جائے یہ تو اج تک بھی نہیں ملا ہے تو یہ کوئی میرے خیال میں جو بلوچ عوام کے مطالبات نہیں ہیں اور یہ بلوچستان کا مسئلہ نہیں ہیں یہ جو آپ بول رہے ہیں یا جو یہ سیاسی جماعتیں کہ رہی ہیں بلوچستان کے عوام کے مطالبات سے اور فنڈ سے اور اسٹریٹ لائٹ سے اور سیوریج لائن بنانے سے لاتعلق ہیں وہ انکا مسئلہ نہیں ہے جو یہ سیاسی جماعتیں کررہی ہیں۔

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تو یہ بار بار وفاقی حکومتیں آجاتی ہیں کہتی ہیں کہ بلوچستان کی عوام سے معافی مانگتے ہیں زیادتی کی۔۔؟ مشرف نے معافی مانگی۔۔؟ وہ جب آئے انہوں نے کہا کہ بلوچستان کے ساتھ زیادتی ہوئی ہے۔۔؟

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کسی نے معافی نہیں مانگی ۔۔۔زرداری نے ایک دفعہ معافی مانگی،مشرف نے آج تک کوئی معافی نہیں مانگی یہ سارے لوگ مذاق کرتے ہیں زرداری نے جب معافی مانگی وہ بھی مذاق تھا اور معافی مانگنے کے بعد انہوں اور مرنا شروع کردیا اسی طرح یہ کہتے ہیں مذکرات کرتے ہیں اور اسی اور تشدد بڑھتا ہے۔سرکار کی اور پوزیشن ہے اور آپکی اور ہے۔عوام تشدد کی طرف جاتے ہیں تو سرکار ایک والدین کا رول ادا کرتی ہے۔وائلنس کو وائلنس سے نہ ماریں وہ کوئی ایسی حکمت عملی بنائے وہ پر امن یعنی حکمت عملی کوئی پیدا ہوجائے

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آپ خود بھی لکھتے ہیں اکثر یہ پوچھا جاتا ہے کہ بلوچستان کا اصل مسئلہ ہے کیا۔۔؟ اور کس طرح حل کیا جاسکتا ہے۔

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بلوچستان کا مسئلہ وہ کبھی حل نہیں کر سکتے نہ انکو یہ بات سمجھ آتی ہے نہ وہ بلوچستان کو سمجھتے ہیں نہ اسکے جغرافیے کو جانتے ہیں نہ اسکی تاریخ کو جانتے ہیں اور نہ لوگوں کو جانتے ہیں اور نہ انکی نفسیات کو جانتے ہیں وہ صرف ایک چیز جانتے ہیں کہ کسی طرح ہم جو ہے غلبہ حاصل کرلیں اور انکو کوئی سروکار نہیں ہے کہ یہاں مسئلہ کوئی حل ہوجائے۔کوئی اور مسئلہ نہیں ہے ایک ہی مسئلہ ہے وہ قومی شناخت کا مسئلہ ۔۔

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مطلب آپ کہتے ہیں کہ یہ مسئلہ حل نہیں ہوگا اور یہ سلسلہ اسی طرح جاری رہے گا اور یہ جنگ بھی موجود رہے گا۔میں وہ جنگ نہیں کہ رہا جو بندوق اٹھا رہے ہیں سیاسی جو ۔۔۔جنگ۔۔یہ اسی طرح چلتا رہے گا معاملات حل نہیں ہونگے۔یہ قومی مسئلہ ہے آپ کہتے ہیں سیاسی نہیں

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یہ سلسلہ اسی طرح جاری رہے گاجنگ کا ایک فلسفہ ہے جب دو فریق لڑتے ہیں تو کسی ایک کو شکست ہوتی ہے تو مسئلہ حل ہوتا ہے۔یہ سیاسی جنگ نہیں ہے یہ قومی سوال کا ایک تنازعہ ہے۔یہ قومی مسئلہ ہے سیاسی مسئلہ نہیں ہے۔ 

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

تو یہاں اکثر سیاسی پارٹیاں کہتی ہیں کہ ہمارے سیاسی مطالبات ہیں۔انکو حل کرکے بلوچستان کا مسئلہ حل کیا جاسکتا ہے۔

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انکو پتہ ہے اگر نیشنل  شناخت کی بات کرینگے تو ان سے کوئی بات بھی نہیں کریگا۔اور انکو خطرہ ہے کہ وہ فنڈ منڈ بھی نہیں ملے گا اور ترقیاتی کام بھی نہیں ہوتے۔

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آپکی باتوں سے یہ نتیجہ اخذ کررہا ہوں کہ جو بھی جاتے ہیں وہاں پر وہ فنڈز نوکریاں لینے کےلئے بس یہیں تک محدود ہے بس اسکے آگے ۔۔؟ میں نے چھ نکات رکھے آپ نے کہا وہ بھی مسئلہ نہیں ہے۔۔۔؟

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اور کیا کریں۔۔۔اگر بلوچستان کو ایک لاکھ نوکریاں دے دیں تو آپکے خیال میں مسئلہ حل ہوجائے گا۔

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وسائل پر اختیارات ۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

وسائل پر اختیارات نہیں دیے گئے ہیں 18 ویں ترمیم میں مرکزی حکمران ماننے کو تیار ہی نہیں ہے۔اس میں صوبوں کو جو اختیارات دیے گئے ہیں وہ مانتے نہیں ہیں۔وسائل منتقل کرنے پر تیار نہیں ہیں،ساحل دینے پر تیار نہیں ہیں کہتے ہیں کہ فیڈرل سبجیکٹ ہے۔گیس فیڈرل سبجیکٹ ہے گیس کی آمدنی بھی آپکو دینے کو تیار نہیں ہیں تو کونسی سیاست اور کونسے مسائل ۔؟

شاہنواز بلوچ سینئر صحافی 

آپ مایوس نہیں کررہے ہیں لوگوں کو سیاسی پارٹیوں کو عوام کو ۔۔کہ آپکا مسئلہ حل نہیں ہوگا۔۔؟

انورساجدی سینئر تجزیہ کار اور کالم نویس 

عوام آگاہ ہیں باشعور ہیں اسی لئے  وہ موجودہ حالات میں لاتعلق ہیں جو معاملات ہیں اور یہ جو سیاسی جماعتیں ہیں

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باشعور ہیں اور معاملات سے لا تعلق ہی مطلب ؟

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حکومتی معاملات سے لاتعلق ہیں باشعور ہیں عوام کو پتہ کہ ہم نے کس طرف جائیں اس لئے جو الیکشن ہوتے ہیں لوگ ووٹ ڈالتے نہیں ہیں یا انکی شرکت بہت معمولی ہوتی ہے

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وجہ کیا ہے عدم دلچسپی۔۔؟ کیوں۔۔؟

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لوگ لاتعلق ہیں حکومتی معاملات سے۔۔۔مطلب ان کے ساتھ جو دھوکے ہوئے ہیں 72 سال سے ان انکا اعتماد نہیں ہے یہ جو سیاست ہے یہ جو طریقہ کار ہے یہ جو این اوز ہیں یہ جو فنڈ ہے یہ جو اسٹریٹ لائٹ لگانا وہ انکو اس ے کوئی سروکار نہیں ہے۔

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